December 21st, 2006 -- HOW ABOUT 8 DRIVES in a MAC PRO? MaxUpgrades has a MaxConnect kit that enables you to mount drives in the second optical bay of the Mac Pro. Now, instead of four internal drives, you can have up to EIGHT internal drives! Their testing shows the Mac Pro's power supply can handle the extra wattage. At the very least, you could move your boot drive to the optical bay and stripe four fast, matching drives in the factory "sleds." Or how about dual Raptors in the optical bay as a RAID 0 boot set?
December 15th, 2006 -- Photoshop CS3 SPEED TESTS -- We have now posted our results comparing Photoshop CS2 and CS3 beta running on both a Mac Pro and Quad-Core G5 Power Mac.
December 13th, 2006 -- What are the performance bottlenecks in your Mac? As we approach the new year, it's time to review the state of the Mac. Overall, the Mac computer lineup is the best ever. However, it's our duty to inform you of the missing features and performance limitations of each model so you can be an informed consumer. We also hope Apple engineering and product design is paying attention, too. Check out the latest update on our MISSING PIECES page.
November 15th, 2006 (update) -- More on 3GB Memory Limit on MacBook Pro (Core 2 Duo): Apple states on their memory expansion page that "If you install a 2 GB SO-DIMM in both the bottom and top memory slots of the computer, the 'About This Mac' window and Apple System Profiler will both show that you have 4 GB of SDRAM installed. However, Activity Monitor and other similar applications will reveal that only 3 GB of SDRAM has been addressed for use by the computer." (This also applies to the iMac Core 2 Duo.)
Although the Intel 945PM chipset can physically handle 4GB of DDR2 RAM, there is the potential for "memory overlap" when more than 3GB of RAM is installed. Power PC users aren't used to these kind of limitations. Just say to yourself, "It's an Intel thing."
Of more concern to "speed freaks" is the potential loss of interleaving when you install unmatched pairs (as in the Apple factory's 1GB + 2GB config). Based on our testing, the MacBook Pro goes just as fast with unmatched memory as it does with matched. And apps like Aperture and Photoshop can certainly use the extra memory afforded by the 3GB config.
November 1st, 2006 -- Power Usage of Mac Pro
FYI, we connected a watt meter to our Mac Pro. It requires 410 watts to start up, idles at 300 watts, and peaks at 430 watts when running Doom 3, the most demanding power wise of the ten apps we tried. The Mac Pro had 16GB of RAM, four internal hard drives, and a Radeon X1900 XT. We're confident the Mac Pro's 980 watt power supply can handle just about everything you can do to upgrade or expand a Mac Pro including adding a second high end graphics card.
October 31st, 2006 -- The Radeon X1900 for G5 Power Macs (PCIe only) has appeared on the ATI website, though not yet on their online store. It's not a "GT" with 512MB of DDR3 like the Mac Pro's card, but it should give the GeForce 7800 GT a run for the money and will certainly be a big improvement over the GeForce 6600. We plan to publish a shootout soon.
October 27th, 2006 (Update) -- CalDigit Cracks the 2GB "Crash Barrier."
We spoke with our engineer friends at ProMax about the kernel panics that were occurring when more than one drive enclosure was connected to a SATA host adapter in a Mac Pro with more than 2GB of RAM.
ProMax has confirmed with rigorous testing using multiple enclosures along with various video capture cards that CalDigit's newest driver fixes the problem. If you have a CalDigit PCIe SATA host adapter in your Mac Pro, you can update it by downloading the driver from CalDigit's support page.
We plan to do our own testing of the new CalDigit driver, as well as new Mac Pro compatible drivers FirmTek and HighPoint which address the same issue.
October 25th, 2006 -- Comments on the new MacBook Pros
Good to see the Core 2 Duo version released, though this "Merom" chipset has a frontside bus that's limited to 667MHz.
The 15" model gets its FireWire 800 port back. However, the 7200RPM drive is no longer available for the 15" MacBook Pro. And its SuperDrive is rated at 6X while the 17" MacBook Pro's SuperDrive is rated at 8X. The 15" model is reportedly the most popular. It's too bad it can't be the full equal of the 17" except in screen size.
October 3rd, 2006 -- Some Applications Go Faster Under The Latest OS X Build. We tested some key apps just before and right after the 10.4.7 to 10.4.8 upgrade. Here's some interesting gains we saw:
DOOM 3: Low resolutions (640x480 High) ran 26% faster. We saw a 13% gains with 1024x768 Medium (no Shadows). Reason? Multi-threaded OpenGL is supported by Doom 3 in combination with the newest Tiger release. Doom 3 is currently the only app we know that takes advantage of this but don't be surprised to see patches for other OpenGL apps to appear shortly.
PHOTOSHOP CS2: Our MP2 action file ran 11% faster. We assume there are some improvements to Rosetta.
The tests above were performed on a 17" MacBook Pro 2.16GHz. We plan to test other systems in our lab and post an expanded report early next week.
September 28th, 2006 -- All you World of Warcraft players with PowerPC Macs will want to know about a patch that smooths out frame rates.
September 28th, 2006 -- If you are an experienced Aperture user, we covet your input on the best way to construct an Aperture benchmark. We want a test that will stress the graphics card so we can measure the gains achieved when you upgrade from the GeForce 7300 GT to the Radeon X1900 XT, for example. We also want to test the effect of main memory capacity (2GB vs 4GB vs 8GB, for example. Email
with your suggestions.
September 25th, 2006 -- MaxUpgrades is offering the 4GB (2x2GB) for the Mac Pro for $799, which is the lowest price we've seen for a 4GB kit. We've tested their memory kit with its "Apple approved" heat sink design called MaxSink. Their two clip design allows more fin area to be exposed to the air flow. Based on our testing, it works very well. You can also buy the heat sinks themselves.
September 22nd, 2006 -- Radeon X1900 XT is "detuned"! Though the Radeon X1900 XT "whups" the GeForce 7300 GT, we were surprised to find out that Apple "detuned" the X1900 XT to run at 600 core clock speed and 650 memory clock speed (confirmed by Graphiccelerator). In the Windows PC world, a Radeon X1900 XT typically runs at 625MHz core clock speed and 725MHz memory clock speed. And it does NOT dynamically "up-clock" when you run OpenGL 3D games as in the case of the MacBook Pro 17". (Verified that, too.)
But there is some good news. You can use Graphiccelerator 1.3.2 to change the ROM code so it runs at "normal" speeds or even better. (The memory clock is rated up to 900MHz.) For example, one user has his X1900 XT running at 650MHz core clock and 775MHz memory clock speed -- which turns it into an XTX. Of course, that may cause the X1900's fan to run more often.
We have to warn you that overclocking your X1900 XT can potentially "hurt" it or "kill" it. As for dealing with a noisy fan, one of our readers replaced his heatsink/fan assembly with the ARCTIC COOLING Accelero X2 selling for $22 at NewEgg.
September 21st, 2006 -- We're still baffled by the 3GB limit on the iMac Core Duo. WHY ONLY 3GB of RAM?
Why is the Core 2 Duo, a true 64 bit processor, limited to 3GB? According to Intel's description of the 945PM Express Chipset on which the iMac is based, it supports "up to 4GB memory addressability." Many of you have expressed strong interest in and high hopes for the 24 iMac Core 2 Duo until you learned that the practical limit is 2GB -- since few of you are willing to pay big bucks for a 2GB SODIMM and give up interleaving just to get 3GB. I guess that's good for Apple. They will sell more high profit Mac Pros with it's eight memory slots.
September 20th, 2006 -- Wiebetech is now shipping their "triple interface" ToughTech mini which uses the "Toughtech" enclosure design similar to what their 3.5" drive enclosures use. It accepts notebook size SATA drives and features the Oxford 924 chipset. You'll notice a similarity to the TransIntl miniXpress we reviewed.
September 20th, 2006 -- CalDigit's FASTA-2e two port PCIe 3G SATA host adapter is now compatible with the Mac Pro. You can download the updated driver from their website.
September 15th, 2006 -- YOU CAN NOW HAVE A 3 TERABYTE RAID INSIDE YOUR MAC PRO! Other World Computing has informed us that they tested a firmware update for Seagate 7200.10 drives that fixes the "can't stripe four 750G drives" problem. They got 240+MB/s READ and 350+MB/s WRITE (a new speed record). The fix must be applied to the drives using a Windows PC, however, and only fixes certain serial numbers. We will share more when we know more.
This firmware update does NOT fix the other problems we encountered on the Seagate 7200.10 drives (all sizes):
a) Slow sustained write speeds for single 7200.10 inside the Mac Pro or Power Mac.
b) Slow random read speeds for one drive or RAID 0 sets using the 7200.10.
September 15th, 2006 (Update) -- Calling for Radeon X1900 XT Testers. Apple shipped our Radeon X1900 XT kit only a day late -- we received it the afternoon of September 15th. We've posted TEST RESULTS for the Mac Pro 3.0GHz but still would like to see some results for the Mac Pro 2.66GHz and 2.0GHz running the X1900. Email
for test procedures.
September 14th, 2006 -- Could the iMac Core 2 Duo's advantage be more than just hardware? We were checking to see if the iMac Core 2 Duo had a newer version of OS X compared to the iMac Core Duo. They both are running 10.4.7, but we noticed that the Core 2 Duo had a later build (8K1106 vs 8J2135a). We also happened to do a "Get Info" on the Radeon X1600 driver (ATIRadeonX1000.kext) and noticed it was a different build, too.
That causes us to wonder if the iMac Core 2 Duo's advantage is strictly due to the processor change or if there are also a few performance enhancements to the system software as well. Maybe when Apple releases the next iteration of OS X and we have identical builds on both the iMac Core 2 Duo and Core Duo, we'll know the answer.
September 14th, 2006 (Update) -- Calling for iMac Core 2 Duo Testers
We've been able to test the 20" iMac Core 2 Duo (2.16GHz) and have found two remote mad scientists willing to send us results from their 24" iMac Core 2 Duo (2.33GHz, GeForce 7600). Now we need to find remote mad scientists with 20" iMac Core 2 Duos running at 2.33GHz and 24" iMac Core 2 Duos running at 2.16GHz.
Contact
and he will send you the testing procedures, links, and test files.
September 12th, 2006 --- Because you keep asking, we'll say it again: The PCIe graphics card in your Windows PC will NOT work in the Mac Pro. That's because Apple uses the Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI). Get the whole scoop in THIS ARTICLE. Nor will the G5 Power Mac PCIe cards work in your Mac Pro -- for the same reason.
September 8th, 2006 (update) -- MAC PRO MEMORY TEMPERATURE TESTS -- (See our SPECIAL REPORT on this.)
September 6th, 2006 -- New Core 2 Duo iMac can be ordered now. We can't wait to test one of the new 64 bit Core 2 Duo iMacs running at 2.0GHz against the "old" 32 bit Core Duo iMac running at 2.0GHz -- especially since they both have the same 667MHz frontside bus. (We'll have to wait until summer of 2007 to get a faster frontside bus for the Core 2 Duo based systems.)
The top end model with 2.33GHz processor, GeForce 7600GT GPU (256M), FireWire 800 (finally!), and 24" LCD display nicely bridges the gap between the dual core iMacs and the quad core Mac Pros.
August 30th, 2006 -- The price of the Radeon X1900 XT kit has dropped from $499 to $399. As you know, we ordered the X1900 separately from our Mac Pro so it would not delay the ship date. Apple emailed us today that the price of the kit had dropped and that they had adjusted our invoice accordingly -- estimated shipping date is still September 13th. Use THIS LINK to go directly to the X1900 XT page to see the new price and/or order the kit.
If you are ordering your Mac Pro system, the CTO option for the X1900 XT kit has also dropped in price from $350 to $250.
August 30th, 2006 -- New Fast Jump Drive. We just tested the Patriot Xporter XT 4GB Flash Drive (PEF4G200USB -- $82.99 at NewEgg) on the Mac Pro and MacBook Pro. We didn't get the 32MB/s rated speed but it did beat our previous jump drive champ, the Lexar Lightning. More details to come...
August 29th, 2006 (Update) -- New Photoshop Test Embarrasses the Mac Pro. (We've expanded this entry to a full article.)
August 25th, 2006 -- As of August 24th, TransIntl.com is shipping Mac Pro memory that complies with Apple's specs. They took great care to engineer it for maximum thermal efficiency including drawing heat off the Advanced Memory Buffer chip.
August 19th, 2006 -- Anandtech has an interesting table comparing the specs of the Core Duo to the Core 2 Duo. On other pages they have performance and power consumption info. This article should be of interest to those of you anticipating the release of the Core 2 Duo version of the MacBook Pro. One conclusion I reached after reading it. I'm waiting until mid 2007 to buy a Core 2 Duo based MacBook Pro. (Read the two paragraphs at the end of the page with the table.)
August 18th, 2006 -- New Apple 23" Cinema impresses. We ordered a new 23" Cinema display for our Mac Pro 3GHz. This new model (numbers starting with 2A6260 or higher) is brighter with better contrast than the previous model. Best of all, the pink hue on grey screens is gone. (Read our review of it compared to the Dell 24" Ultrasharp LCD.)
August 11th, 2006 (Update) -- REPORT ON FOUR SEAGATE 750GB drives inside Mac Pro. We had strange results. Weird results. Read our "SPECIAL REPORT" for more details. Also find out if you can BOOT from a RAID 0 inside the Mac Pro.
August 8th, 2006 (Update) -- I'm sure you've heard by now about the hot new dual-dual-core Xeon based Mac Pro towers from Apple. We cancelled our order for the 3GHz model with X1900 XT (3 to 5 weeks) and reordered it with the stock GeForce 7300 GT (3 to 5 days). That way we can get the CPU test results to you faster (compared to the Quad-Core G5). Meanwhile, SEE OUR "ARM CHAIR ANALYSIS" OF THE MAC PRO.
August 3rd, 2006 -- Our testing of the SanDisk Extreme IV CompactFlash card and Extreme FireWire 800 CF reader confirms their boast of 40MB/s. (See our full review.)
August 3rd, 2006 -- We've been using Apple's Wireless BlueTooth Mighty Mouse for almost a week now. The AA batteries make it heavier than the wired Mighty Mouse (114 grams vs 74 grams), but not too much heavier than our favorite mouse, the 95 gram Razer Diamondback. The higher resolution Razer covers more screen area with a given wrist movement. The newest Mighty Mouse is the best wireless Bluetooth mouse we've tested to date and we plan to take it on the road with our MacBook Pro.
July 22nd, 2006 -- CONSUMER ALERT: We must alert you to something before you run out and buy the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA drive. Though it scored well in our 3G drive and host adapter tests, the write speed was unacceptable when installed inside a G5 Power Mac using the factory SATA controller. Also, we've had reports from expert sources that there can be problems with booting and mounting. Plus, Seagate has reportedly made changes to the hardware and firmware on the drive for their most recent manufacturing run -- which may or may not address the issues mentioned above. If you plan to buy one or more of these drives, we recommend you use a reputable dealer who takes returns without charging restocking fees in case it doesn't perform to your satisfaction.
July 10th, 2006 -- CONSUMER ALERT: The current crop of two port PCIe SATA host adapters: Most of them use the generic Silicon Image driver. I'm concerned about Silicon Image's ability to provide ongoing support for this driver. They are new to the driver game. They have a history of being slow to release updates. This could come back to bite you at some point.
We'll soon be posting a review of the FirmTek SeriTek/2SE2-E which has custom firmware (and does not require a driver). It features the ability to boot OS X. It's pricier than most two port PCIe SATA cards at $99, but FirmTek has a very good track record when it comes to updates and customer support.
July 7th, 2006 -- Dan Silber sent me some interesting Final Cut Pro 5.1.1 test results comparing a Dual G5/1.8 Power Mac to the 17" MacBook Pro 2.16GHz Core Duo. We plan to duplicate his tests on some of our lab systems and publish those results along with his.
July 6th, 2006 -- New Education version of Intel iMac has the same integrated GPU as the Intel Mac mini and 13" MacBook: The Intel GMA950. Though the price is "right," be aware that OpenGL and Core Image functions will be much slower than the standard Intel iMac with the Radeon X1600 GPU, as our tests show.
June 29th, 2006 -- TransIntl.com now has an excellent SATA notebook drive enclosure, the miniXpress, with two FireWire 800 ports, one FireWire 400 port, and one USB 2.0 port. The rugged, good looking aluminum case resists scratches and has excellent heat dissipation characteristics. The FireWire 800 ports enable you to squeeze maximum performance from the 7200prm SATA notebook drives from Hitachi and Seagate. (Or use it for your factory MacBook or MacBook Pro drive if you upgrade.)
May 29th, 2006 -- Verizon Wireless Broadband "Trick" for MacBook Pro Users -- We rely heavily on the Verizon AirCard for our PowerBooks. It gives us the most flexible access to broadband internet than anything else we've found. Our frustration lately is that there are no ExpressCard/34 AirCards for MacBook Pros, though Verizon admits they are "working on one." However, one of our readers pointed out that we could use a 3G capable cell phone as an interim solution.
So we contacted Verizon and added unlimited broadband service to our RAZR cell phone. We connected it to the MacBook Pro using an USB cable. After choosing the "Verizon Support (PC 5200)" modem script we were able to "rock and roll" on the Internet at 1100Kbps download speed. We also tried the Bluetooth method. It worked but the download speed dropped to 550Kbps. This not the perfect solution since it ties up the use of the cell phone but it's an interim solution until Verizon releases a MacBook Pro compatible 3G/1xEVDO ExpressCard/34.
May 19th, 2006 -- 17" MacBook Pro has variable speed GPU! We were pleased with but puzzled by the dramatic speed jump in 3D gaming compared to the 15" MacBook Pro. But after receiving a tip from Michael Bean of AMUG, we rechecked the 17" MacBook Pro's X1600 GPU's core and memory speeds before, during and after running 3D Games using Graphiccelerator's "Show ATI Frequencies" function. Before starting a series of runs, the core measured 311MHz frequency. When we ran 3D games, it jumped to 423MHz. After sitting idle a few minutes, it fell back to 311MHz. We measured a similar jump in the GPU's memory clock from 297MHz to 450MHz. Now we know why the 17" MacBook Pro performed as well as the Intel iMac on the 3D Game tests.
May 17th, 2006 -- Some thoughts on the MacBook 13" -- It provides impressive performance for the money except in one area: the GPU -- same integrated Intel GMA950 that's in the Intel Mac mini. It supports Core Image and OpenGL graphics but a lot slower than the Radeon X1600 in the iMac and MacBook Pro. It not only borrows its 64MB of video memory from the system memory, but it does not support vertex shaders or transform and lighting effects.
I wish Apple would upgrade the MacBook Pro 15" and 17" to use the GeForce Go 7800 and use the Radeon X1600 in the MacBook 13".
May 9th, 2006 (update) -- Quake 4 patch adds dual core support. The gain varies depending on the quality and resolution. At 640x480 "Low" with Shadows OFF, we saw a 61% gain in frame rates on an Intel iMac 2.0 with "SMP" enabled. However, at 1024x768 "High" with Shadows ON, the advantage dropped to 2%.
We forgot to mention yesterday that the patch also provides gains on the PPC Macs. Our Quad-Core with the GeForce 7800 saw a gain of 50% at 640x480 "Low" dropping to 7% at 1280x1024 "High."
Another way to get a jump in frame rates is to turn OFF shadows. Doing so produced a 68% gain on the Intel iMac running at 1024x768 "High." Stay tuned to a full report comparing various Intel and PPC Macs running Quake 4.
April 27th, 2006 -- The Lexar FireWire CompactFlash Card Reader is twice as fast as the famous SanDisk Ultra ImageMate FireWire CompactFlash Card Reader. For years we have been singing the praises of the SanDisk FW reader. In fact, we recently ordered a second one for the lab since they were out of production and becoming scarce. The Flash Memory Store sent us a Lexar FW RW019-001 reader instead, claiming it was just as fast.
We were upset and about to send it back when we decided to try it. Guess what? It reads our Extreme III 1GB CF card more than TWICE as fast as the SanDisk FW reader. (15MB/s versus 7MB/s) We're not only keeping the "mistake" but ordering another. (Don't confuse it with the Lexar LX RW011-001 Purple FW CF Reader -- which is slow and unreliable.)
April 24th, 2006 -- Now we get a 17" MacBook Pro. It offers a bigger screen, slightly faster cores (2.16GHz), FireWire 800 port, faster DVD burner, and weighs 1.2 pounds more than the 15" model -- which we expect to remain the most popular.
April 24th, 2006 -- FirmTek Is Showing Their 2 Port PCI Express SATA II host adapter at NAB. Don't miss our review of their SATA ExpressCard/34 for the MacBook Pro.
April 20th, 2006 -- Matched Memory Pairs make your Intel Mac Faster. Some of you were asking whether you would gain any speed using matched memory pairs on your Macbook Pro, Intel Mac or Intel mini. In our testing, iMovie renders were 3% faster with matched pairs. Our Photoshop CS2 MP actions ran 6% faster with matched pairs.
April 19th, 2006 -- Seagate's new Cheetah 15,000 RPM drive is the first to crack the 100MB/s mark. The newest incarnation of the Cheetah, designated "15K.5" is rated at 125MB/s. It's available with 3Gb/s SAS (Serial Attached SCSI), Ultra320 SCSI and 4 Gb/s Fibre Channel interfaces. This flagship enterprise drive features 10 times the error protection and data reliability of the previous model. And it's the first 15K drive to use perpendicular technology, doubling capacity to 300GB.
April 14th, 2006 -- How fast does the Universal Binary version of Final Cut Pro and Motion run on the Mac Book Pro compared to a Dual G5/2.0 Power Mac? We hope to find out soon when our upgrade arrives but Creative Mac has the answer already.
April 13th, 2006 -- Back on March 21, 2006 we reported that HighPoint's driver update to the RocketRAID 2320 SATA II PCI Express host adapter fixed the SLOW RAID 5 WRITE SPEED and the SLEEP ISSUE. The speed issue was truly fixed but the sleep issue has NOT been resolved as we hoped. When you select sleep, the screen goes black and the internal drives spin down but the fans continue to run. HighPoint is continuing to work the issue.
April 11th, 2006 -- PCI Express 8 Lane Slot (3) does produce a real world speed drop compared to the 16 Lane Slot (1). We finally got around to installing the GeForce 7800 GT in slot 3 of our Quad-Core. We ran various apps to see if there was any speed penalty to using the 8 lane PCI Express slot compared to the 16 lane slot (1) factory default. In other words, if you add a second graphics card in the 8 lane slot, will it actually run slower than the one in the 16 lane slot?
The answer is, "Yes, but not always by much." Of course, CPU intensive tasks won't be affected but when we ran Motion and iMaginator -- which hand off Core Image functions to the graphics card, the 16 lane slot was 3% and 7% faster repectively. With OpenGL 3D games at 1600x1200 High Quality, the advantage of the 16 lane slot varied from 2% with Doom 3 to 45% with Unreal Tournament 2004's Flyby. Most other game scenarios were 13% faster with the 16 lane slot in use.
April 7th, 2006 -- Sonnet SATA II PCIe Host Adapter Review by AMUG -- If you want the scoop of the Tempo E4P (four external ports) host adapter for Dual-Core and Quad-Core G5 Power Macs, the gang at AMUG has "plumbed the depths."
April 6th, 2006 -- Boot Camp Benchmarks (Update) -- See our results HERE.
April 5th, 2006 -- MacBook Pro Problems have been reported by various 'early adopters' (blinking screens, whining fans, speaker problems, etc.). Apple has been addressing these problems with 'silent' revisions of the main logic board. It's up to Rev D (serial numbers of W8611xxxxxx or higher). If you are experiencing any problems with your MacBook Pro, I suggest you back it up and take it in to your Apple dealer. It's very likely you will have a revised main logic board when it comes back.
March 18th, 2006 -- Mad Scientists have created some "mutant" graphics cards for older Macs. I was recently sent two interesting "creations" from one of the StrangeDogs.com forum members. The first card was a GeForce 6200 (AGP) that's designed specifically for the G4 Cube. It really sizzles in our "asymetrical" dual processor G4/1.4/1.7GHz Cube. Fits the original case, doesn't require the VRM/DC board to be moved, runs quiet, and doesn't require external power source.
The other card was a GeForce 6600 GT (AGP) we tested it in on our "FW800" G4/1.42MP Power Mac and two of our Dual Single-Core G5 Power Macs (AGP 8X). It's equal to or faster than a Radeon 9800 Pro. My favorite feature is the blue LED that glows in the heatsink fan. (See our test results.)
March 11th, 2006 -- USB 2.0 is faster on the MacBook Pro. We were doing some testing with a Hitachi Travelstar 7K100 inside a FireWire 800 / USB 2.0 enclosure. To our surprise, it ran much faster on the MacBook Pro's USB 2.0 port than it did on the newest PowerBook and Power Mac. We suspect the same is true of the Intel iMac and Intel Mac mini.
